Fast Food (Atari 2600 Expert/A)

Score: 1,930
World Ranking: 3
Scored By: KurisuYamato (XXX)
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Since your last post I was hoping you posted the new score. Seeing you did you absolutly get my yes votelaugh

-- Posted by thedarkbanshee on 2014-07-22 01:08:17   Reply
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i know what you mean man!  when I get no votes on a puny score.   

i get the wierdest reasoning sometimes. 

"due to past actions, reputation or legit rating."  well my rating is 97%, and I only got that reasoning on this one score, so what on earth could I have done in the past to make this person think that THIS particular score is not legit?  doesn't make sense.  I'm starting to change my mind to think people shouldn't even have to give a reason for voting no because it produces nonsense.  people who leave comments here at the score page about why they voted no, at least it makes sense & if I don't understand I can ask.

don't worry about it though, you'll always get some no votes no matter what, can't be helped, & it will still go through.   they almost always go through in the end unless of course you actually DID make a blunderous mistake & don't remove it.   or if your score atually IS monstrous with only a picture (especially if there are known exploits or if it's a uber-classic game like Pac-Man arcade.)

also some people aren't actually familiar with the game, so they don't know if it's a big score or not.  different people have different standards too.  the only way to maintain 100% legitimacy here is to have yourself in the video playing the game & the console in view & everything evidenced perfectly & even then it's only a matter of time before you get some senseless no-vote.

for Atari games on the A setting I just expect to get a few no votes with picture only, even if it is proven on-screen somehow.  with a small score.  some people just have a tough standard.

but, even though I don't hold people to it I gotta say, it's nice to see your top-notch evidence ! 


-- Posted by S.BAZ on 2014-07-22 01:14:03   Reply
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I don't trust videos like that. I would like you to come to Denmark, bring your machine, and the game, and play it in front of me...just kidding of course laugh

I've also had a lot of No votes to what I consider bad scores. I can't see the logic behind this aswell sad

-- Posted by Frankie on 2014-07-22 01:58:39   Reply
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But, my units are NTSC, and you are in PAL land. It wouldn't work! :o


-- Posted by KurisuYamato on 2014-07-22 09:33:49   Reply
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What amazes me though is that a quick look over this game would give a person the impression that old score was nothing special.

I feel the big problem is that people are allowed to vote anonymously.  I think this can be fixed via NOT allowing such hidden feedback, and by making a more prominant "I wish to see more evidence" option, which instead of giving a "no" vote, would simply make such a request known.

I feel strongly that the "no, this is not legitimate" choice should be reserved ONLY for those cases where there is certainty the user was cheating. Here in the US, for example, a person is only convicted of a crime if evidence shows they did it without doubt - otherwise, they are presumed innocent.

Just because a photo does not prove a person got the score legitimatedly, it does not mean automatically that they cheated - a user should NOT vote at all on such, rather than assume the person did cheat.

This is why I took such strong offence to the score being challenged, as it was an insult to my honesty, and basically an accusation, with no evidence, that I was a cheater!

It hurts us as a gaming community to have such occure, expecially when the person is too scared to show themselves.

-- Posted by KurisuYamato on 2014-07-22 09:39:25   Reply
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@KurisuYamato: LOL I did not even think about that :-)
-- Posted by Frankie on 2014-07-22 09:49:30   Reply
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That actually should be taken into account on scores - some games do run slower or faster in comparison from one region or another, thus, making it easier or harder in a given area.

Many games are "easier" in PAL due to slowdown, for example.

-- Posted by KurisuYamato on 2014-07-22 10:04:38   Reply
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good ideas Kurisu!  a "request more evidence" button, I'm surprised no one has mentioned that yet now that you say it.  maybe that could also skip the score for you & make it come back into your voting sequence in a few days so you can be reminded to review it later.

yes if you know of any specific PAL games which are easier I'm sure it would help to request the addition of those as separate games.  there are a few PAL / NTSC distinctions here but mostly that has not been considered.

-- Posted by S.BAZ on 2014-07-24 16:30:57   Reply
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It is something that really does need to be added.

As for PAL / NTSC differences, if I do find a game that would be different due to such, I certainly will let people know such.

-- Posted by KurisuYamato on 2014-07-22 22:45:25   Reply
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Worth noting that the same comment as last time was applied to a new score of mine.

I am 100% certain this is a troll, and I am going to demand the site owner solve this issue.

-- Posted by KurisuYamato on 2014-07-23 11:44:35   Reply
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those anonymous comments can be annoying but again I wouldn't worry about it or take insult.

they could be trolling, but I think probably just being strict.

do you mean your A/Expert setting game with the picture of the junior showing the switches?

I've used the same evidence myself & I trust it!   but some people just wish to have a more strict policy for evidence.  technically you could move the switches after playing the game & the score would still show on the screen in most games. 

i don't think it necessarily means they're saying you cheated,   ...they might just be holding to their own standard of solid evidence. 

i know for a fact my scores are legit, yet many of them have a few no votes.  mainly because i usually only use a picture.   people who exclusively use video with everything in sight (like this Fast Food one of yours) get the highest % rating overall.   and that actually makes sense, doesn't it?  even those evidences get an occasional no vote

-- Posted by S.BAZ on 2014-07-23 15:26:57   Reply
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I am still going to raise a complaint about this. The person should not be down-voting without reason to believe I cheated. Once agian, too, this score is a very low score - it's not like this is a world record or anything.

The biggest reason this is unacceptable to me is that the person refuses to show themselves. They do not wish to be known - this indicates they have something to hide.

Being strict is one thing, but this person seems to simply refuse to trust any photos, and thus, down votes every single photo I, or others, post, of Atari 2600 scores.  Such is not constructive to the community, and I feel should be stopped immediately.

There is no evidence I, or anyone else, cheated to get the score we post - why should someone distrust our score? Instead they should simply ignore it.

-- Posted by KurisuYamato on 2014-07-23 15:56:13   Reply